Monday, June 8, 2009

Exchange With Candy

This exchange just really made me realize why people are so upset with her and her blog. I got it, on a small scale, before, but this just sealed the deal. When someone tries so hard to convince someone of why their little lie is really not a lie and when they turn around and flat out lie, they are not to be held up as an example of a Christian woman. I have had others email me things she has said before, but this one takes the cake because it's much more, I don't know. I guess I finally just really saw it.

Below is the email conversation, both sides:


What is your email address? : Prov31WInT@aol.com
Subject : Home Tour
Message : I just wanted to ask, as a sister in Christ, to please be very transparent and honest in your posts. As noted, your daughter's room is in a nice sized walk-in closet. There is nothing wrong with that. It's a creative use of space when you have more feet than rooms. But how about stop calling it a 4 bedroom and just say something like, "we only have 3 bedrooms and felt our daughter needed some privacy. We have this huge walk-in closet off of our room/bathroom and felt it would give her the space she needs to sleep privately or to read a little book alone." It feels deceptive to read the description you have given and then discover it's not the full truth. As Christians we should steer away from even the appearance of evil. Are we perfect? No. Should we strive for God's way? Yes. I enjoy your home tours, your videos, and many of your homeschooling ideas. But it's very concerning to read these things that aren\'t full truth and then trust the other things you say.

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Subject:
my daughters BEDroom
Date:6/5/2009 8:27:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time
From:noemail@spam.com
Reply To:
To:Prov31WInT@aol.com
My daughters bedroom is a small room with a bed in it.That makes it a bedroom. We've considered making thatsmall room into our office in the future. Then, thatroom will no longer be a BEDroom, it will then be anoffice.

Get off your high horse.

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What is your email address? : Prov31WInT@aol.com
Subject : Your Dauther's Bedroom
Message : OK, I won't email anything again about the subject. If you want to tell your readers that\'s a bedroom by technical terms, then that's fine. It's your blog. I was just saying it's hard to trust when the words are put together in a way that\'s not fully the truth. I think it\'s a creative use of space to put her into that walk-in. That\'s a huge closet. I used to have one that large myself and fully enjoyed the space to put the extras in it.

I am not on a high horse. But it\'s not wrong for a sister in Christ to talk to a sister in Christ privately about such things. In fact, we are called to do it. I am sorry you got upset that I asked for a bit more honesty in your posting since you put yourself out as a Christian woman striving for a Godly walk and a public Godly image as most of us do once we become Christ followers.

Just remember, I can put myself in the oven but it doesn\'t make me a bisquit. And that\'s where I will end this as there is no where else to go with this since we don\'t have one or two sisters that we know to come to you with and ask for more honesty. So, as I said, your blog, you can call the closet what you wish. And, as I also said, I think it\'s a creative use of space on your part. We have a repurposed mudroom that we now use as a pantry and a repurposed dining room that we use as our oldest child\'s bedroom. Creativity is often a must.

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Subject:Here's what's ridiculous
Date:6/5/2009 9:08:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time
From:nomail@spam.org
Reply To:
To:Prov31WInT@aol.com

What is rediculous, is that you have never been in my house,nor have you been in my daughter's BEDroom. My closetis at the end of my bedroom, near the foot of my bed.

The room my daughter is in, is a small room that canbe used as a BEDroom, as an office, as a storage room,etc.

So, I think you are being absolutely rediculous.

A closet is a CLOTHESette. My daughter is not sleeping in a CLOTHESette. She is sleeping in a ROOM with a bed, this makes it a BEDroom.

Shame on you for accusing me of being a lier, and shameon you for assuming to know the rooms in my house.

I would presume you are getting this baloney in yourhead from the hate sites. If I am wrong, that is great, and I hope I am. But usually when I readweird stuff like this, the person had just come fromone of those sick, slanderous, gossip sites.

So, I can say "get off your high horse," because youseem to think you possess the powers of remoteviewing, which you obviously don't.

Am I offended? Absolutly. Your accusation to me, isakin to my saying to you "don't lie and say you're awoman. We all know you got that sex operation lastyear," or maybe this one - "Have you stopped beatingyour husband yet?"

Do you see my point? You don't just email me, and say"stop lying. Your girl sleeps in a closet, not abedroom." Rediculous. My daughter sleeps in herbedroom, thank you very much. :-?

If you email me back to clean this up, then I'm game.But, if you're just going to email me with moreFallacies of Presuppositions than I will not be interested in continuing the conversation.

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What is your email address? : Prov31WInT@aol.com
Subject : Final On This Topic
Message : I told you I won\'t talk to you about it anymore. I said my peace, I am done. I made that promise and I don\'t break my word. I will go back to reading your site and just gleaning what I can as I do every other Christian woman\'s blog that I read. I am a Christian woman with my own blog. I know what I know and I know who my Savior is. That\'s all I need at this point and won\'t continue in this with you. Thank you and God bless you.

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Subject:ha!
Date:6/5/2009 9:21:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time
From:nomail@spam.org
Reply To:
To:Prov31WInT@aol.com

Obviously you don't know what you know, because mybedroom has only one closet, and that is not wheremy daughter sleeps. She is in the nursery, that isher bedroom.

I suggest you stop reading my blog, or you may havemore false distant viewing episodes.

A Christian would appologize for being incorrect, notcontinue on in their nonsense.

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What is your email address? : Prov31WInT@aol.com
Subject : Really, I Don\'t Care About The Room Anymore
Message : You are harping on a topic that has been closed, laughing like you got some sort of odd pleasure out of proving something to me and I should apologize? I am not continuing anything. I didn\'t mention one tiny dot about your home in my response to you. I am sorry you feel the need to continue this. You won\'t con me into breaking my promise to you. I keep my word and would hope you would respect that fact. I AM sorry your feelings were hurt. That was not my intention in my private request to you.

Thank you and God bless.

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Subject:huh?
Date:6/5/2009 10:08:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time
From:none@none.net
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To:Prov31WInT@aol.com

Are you Dyslogic? You keep emailing, saying you aregoing to stop emailing me. You called me a liar. Ishowed you where you were wrong, and you insist in keeping in your pride, instead of appologizing for yourpride, and now you keep email me, telling me that youpromised that you wouldn't email me about it anymore.

I don't understand you. Who are you? What in the world do you want with me?

You emailed me something that was incorrect. Icorrected your misconception, and yet, you are keepingat some sort of game. If you are hinting at somethingor trying to tell me something, without actuallysaying it, then give up. It won't work, I have"Asburgers." I don't take hints.

Just spit it out already, or leave me alone.I don't get it. :-( Either you are seriouslymentally ill, or I am not getting what you are trying to say. Because honestly, you are lookingto me like an insane wacco.

You tell me what the rooms in my house are, yetyou've never been in my house, and when I correctyou, you refuse to believe me, but instead say"I know what I know." Then, you keep emailing me,saying "I won't email you."

Can you see how you look like an insane person tome? Again, I don't get it. What in the world areyou trying to do???

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Subject:Okay, I fixed it
Date:6/5/2009 10:16:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time
From:none@none.net
Reply To:
To:Prov31WInT@aol.com

I went into my updated house tour, and made thedescription of my closet area and of the nursery moreclear.

Hope this helps. :-)

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What is your email address? : Prov31WInT@aol.com
Subject : Confused
Message : I didn\'t say I wouldn\'t email again. Goodness, I didn\'t know you thought no communication should ever happen again. I said I would not email you about your home again. I was clear about it. Calling someone crazy is very unChristlike. I did apologize, if you had read my last email. I am sorry you feel the need to attack.

I am also sorry you have Aspergers. That must make life more of a challenge, but you are proof you can overcome such an adversity in life. I know three young little men that are living life with Asperger\'s, and many more with Autism, and it\'s a hard road but one that can be over come with God\'s leading and wonderful dietary and supplemental interventions. You are a great example to those who have these disorders. You should speak more on them as many parents today don\'t get the opportunity to see adult examples of what their children have to give them hope.

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Subject:finishing this
Date:6/6/2009 11:29:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time
From:none@none.net
Reply To:
To:Prov31WInT@aol.com

I don't know what you want, and I don't understand youone bit, so I am putting an end to this charade.

To clarify, the room my daughter sleeps in, used tobe a walk in closet, but it has been converted intoa bedroom, much the same way some people convertindoor porches into bedrooms.

A new closet was built in the room. Therefore I amnot at all lying, when I call her room her room, becauseit is a room, and it's hers.

I appologize if you have misunderstood me, or I havemislead you. I have fixed my house tour to be moreclear, by saying her room is a nursery, becausethat's what it is.

I will cease to continue this conversation, becauseit truly is a waste of time. This I believe tobe evident.

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What is your email address? : prov31wint@aol.com
Subject : Sorry
Message : I don\'t know why you think I am continuing the conversation about your home. I have not mentioned it since I said I wouldn\'t mention it again. I am sorry for the confusion. I am sorry you are upset that you think I am still worried about it. I have moved on and haven\'t had another thought about it.

My last email was to clarify that I did apologize to you and to say I was sorry you had to deal with Asperger\'s and how your story of how you have overcome the challenges surrounding it would be a great post, probably a great many posts. I know many parents who are facing this with their children and would really, really like to hear from an adult with Asperger\'s as it would give them great hope. I was honestly supportive in that aspect and hoping to maybe give you some back pats on how you have been so successful in overcoming.

Really, Candy, the home situation is closed. I don\'t care. I said my peace in that first email. I vow to not bring it up again and I have kept that vow. I was honestly trying to move on from that topic and speak about another one you brought up, your asperger\'s. God bless you today, and everyday. I am, truly yours, your sister in Christ.

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This is when Candy brought in a third party to start questioning like she had no clue what was happening, only to later discover Candy had shared all the emails and was trying to dupe some information.

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What is your email address? : Prov31WInT@aol.com
Subject : Thank you
Message : I want to thank you for putting inforamtion out on the net like you do. You said something that made me feel such great awe that you were doing so well overcoming something that so many suffer with when you told me you had Asperger\'s. Now I find out you lied to me. You, dear sister, need to really check your words. You are hurting people you don\'t even know. You have no clue how much that can hurt a person.

Then I find that you don\'t have Asperger\'s. You said, on Anne\'s blog, \"Thank you for appreciating my bluntness. I\'ve been accused of having \"Aspberger\'s\" or whatever that is. I don\'t think I do. I just value honesty, and total up-front-ness, as you know. :-PFebruary 27, 2009 9:22 AM\"

Wow, just wow. I no longer trust a word you say because you have proven yourself untrustworthy. You are lying to people to make yourself look good instead of humblind yourself to make God look good. I hope you will change your ways. I just removed your blog from my favorites file. God bless you and I will keep you in my prayers. Please, think before you speak. And please don\'t try and deny you said this, I have your email to me where you did say you had Asperger\'s.

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Subject:***your email has been blocked***
Date:6/7/2009 2:17:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time
From:noflaming@none.net
Reply To:
To:Prov31WInT@aol.com

You have been detected as sending malicious, hatefulemails to Candy via her contact form on her blog.This email is to inform you that you have been reported,and that any comments you send through Candy's systemwill no longer be received, but automatically filtered out and thrown away.

***This is your only notice***

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So, it's mentioned ONCE about the closet that is her daughter's bedroom (which you noticed she finally admitted to the truth), the she goes on and on about it while the subject is dropped and polite conversation is attempted to be had (which she said would be fine if it moved to polite conversation), but name calling ensues (dyslogic and insane), and finally, when actual proof of her lies are shown to her (her own words, can't deny those), email is blocked. Oh, Candy, how sad for you. You were willing to keep up with the charade as long as there was no ability to "prove" it. Then you admit to the lie, privately (but do not make the correction on your blog), but block email when someone says, "here's real proof". Keep it honest Candy and you won't have to backpeddle like this.

(the goofy little / in certain areas were not in the original emails. But when Candy's system sends a copy of the email, it puts them into the body.)

I have the screen shot of her admitting that she doesn't have Asperger's, but figured her quote would work. Email me if you want the screen shot sent to you.

18 comments:

  1. OMG, I am soo angry about her Asbergers comment. As a mother of a child on the spectrum I am seeing red right now! I'll be back after I take a shower and calm down a bit!

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  2. Exactly! To lie about such a hard and often debilitating disorder just makes my blood boil. It shows the heartlessness of some people. And then to hold yourself up so piously just makes me wish I could get this so all of her readers could see it.

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  3. In the US...a BEDroom must have a window and a closet...to be classified as a 'bed' room. as a matter of fact for safety reasons it MUST have a window( and I doubt her converted closet has one...maybe it does? who knows?)

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  4. ooooh, that woman makes me so mad. I will write more when I can think straight again.

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  5. What is this "accused of having" Asperger's? It's not a crime or sin. That's like saying you're accused of having cancer!

    Are we supposed to comment on this HERE or on STC?

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  6. Feel free to do it on STC. I just posted it here so you guys could read it. I think Greek is considering putting it on STC anyway.

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  7. WOW, she calls a closet a bedroom (now in her updated tour it's a nursery) but you are on a high horse???? Amazing.

    I can't believe she wrote >>>A Christian would appologize for being incorrect, notcontinue on in their nonsense.<<< That blows my mind considering the things she has been flat out PROVEN wrong about and NEVER EVER apologized for. The girl is dangerous to those that hold on to her every word and defend her.

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  9. She told me to apologize for being incorrect and then told me I was correct that the nursery was a closet. But she never, not once, apologized for calling me horrible names, lying about the Asperger's comment, or lying about the room in our emails. Oh well, pot you need a little shining there.

    (sorry, deleted last post as I had far too many typos)

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  10. Hello, this is Candy, this is the only time I will be stopping here. I stumbled on this blog, and was surprised to find my personal emails to you put in public. I apologized to you about the room thing - I was just taken off guard by your words.

    I am having a medical issue, which is reaping heck on my hormones, so I believe the Lord is using this to teach me self-control, even when I have the urge to stand up and scream at times.

    My levels are about back to normal now - it was a thyroid-related medical issue, being resolved.

    I regret that I used the wordage I did with you, and I apologize.

    As for the Aspergers, that Anne's blog - I don't even remember leaving that comment, BTW, I was told I have Aspergers, but I didn't believe it.

    Upon taking the below test, I find that I do have it, and so many things in my life make more sense now. here is the link to the test:

    http://www.piepalace.ca/blog/asperger-test-aq-test

    I didn't know that my fascination with shapes and the number 22 meant anything, nor that I hate social situations (am getting better, as the Lord leads). This explains a lot, because I’ve lost so many friends through my life, and HAVE NO IDEA WHY, or what I did.

    So, I hope you'll accept my heartfelt apology to you. I never meant any harm or deception.

    I won't come back to this blog, nor will I visit the hate sites. I can't. They break my heart. :-(

    I will unblock your email address, should you wish to email me a response. Since my emails to you have been made public, I may not feel safe in responding to you, but if you feel the need to contact me, you can use my "contact me" link again, it will work.

    If you truly are a sister in Christ, then heed the Scripture the Lord led me to last night, and that is this:

    "Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge." James 4:11

    I never intended to speak evil of you to Lydia. I told her in my conversation that I was sorry I was so harsh with you, and that, from what I saw of your other blog, you appeared to be a Christian woman, and that we would probably get along wonderfully in real life.

    I've said my piece. I've done what the Lord wanted me to, and my heart is light. I am going to move on now.

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  11. "This explains a lot, because I’ve lost so many friends through my life, and HAVE NO IDEA WHY, or what I did."

    I wonder if this means she'll be letting my dad see his grandchildren again?

    Hint to what she did: Cut off communication with all family members for daring to call her out publicly for her very public lies and deceptions.

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  12. She is soooooo full of crap it's unreal!!!!! Oh she must have people by the dozens calling her out in private.

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  13. Candy, I sent you a full apology already, before you sent this. Thank you for returning the sentiment.

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  14. Hmmmm, how would she "stumble" on your blog?

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  15. Because someone shared it with her. LL and her chatted, LL asked me, I shared my blog address, LL shared it with her. I don't know why they did it, I don't care. I know how it felt when I discovered the deception, but she has apologized for it, so I am OK with it being ended on that end.

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  16. Candy, make sure to not take that test as a DX. A DX on the Autism spectrum is much harder than one online test. You need to see a professional (neurologist, very high quality family doctor, or psychiatrist would be a good place to start) for real and in-depth testing. Those types of things just kind of give you an idea if maybe you should talk to a professional. A lay person cannot DX an Autism Spectrum Disorder. I took the test and looked it over. That is NOT, I repeat NOt a really good Autism test. It's generic, for fun, and doesn't use the standard rating scale for the myriad of tests used to DX ASD. Please, I repeat please, if you feel you honestly have this, don't say it to other, don't tell anyone other than family, just get someone that's a professional and that does this for a living to test you. Then, and only then, say you have it. It's not a good thing to have. It's not a red badge of courage. It's a life long and very hard disorder and one that doesn't go away, ever. It's not glamorous and it's not fun. The therapy you will probably want to pursue is going to be very hard and not something you can do yourself, but it's worth it.

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  17. Forgive me for stating the obvious but there is no evidence that it is really Candy who posted the apology and if she did then why did she vreate a separate account for it?

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  18. Ah, isn't it wonderful to be lied to. No wonder she didn't say anything to me in email. Hmmm.

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